James Divine: Shall we? Let's start. Oh my God. Then with that awesomeness,
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I like to close with something light from some Nine Inch Nails. Lyrics. Yeah.
Katie Rempe: Oh, well fuck you. I can
Stephanie Dosen Hart: animal,
Katie Rempe: like we do sing a lot on this show. Actually. That's pretty funny.
Light From Lantern presents: Knit A Spell.
I'm magical maker: Katie Rempe.
And I'm the maker of magic: James Divine.
Join us as we stitch together the symbiotic relationship between crafting and 'The Craft'.
Katie Rempe: Welcome Knit A Spell fans. Jim and I are so excited for this episode because it is our first episode of the season with the guest, and our guest is the very amazing, extremely talented, don't be too jelly that we're talking to her today.
Stephanie Dosen Hart of Tiny Owl Knit. Welcome to the show. Yay.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Hi. Hi! Yay. Thanks for having me.
Katie Rempe: You are like such a wonderful guest to have on the show. Thank you so much for coming on because you are a magical maker. I mean, not just knitting but beyond. Tell our listeners a little bit about you.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: So the year was 1972. Mm-hmm. I was looking for a body. I was in ephemeral reality, just off the mountains. And landed in. And then 1973 I was born. And then it's just been magic ever since.
Katie Rempe: Oh, well good. Just a light story of magic.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Yeah. That's it.
James Divine: I hear that. You live in the mountains and you have a unicorn, a puffy cat, and a big old yarn stash.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: That is all true still. I have more unicorns now. I mean, they do come in and they change their names when you're talking to them in the astro.
Mm-hmm. But, you know, so sometimes they shapeshift and do other things, so lots of unicorns around.
Stephanie's Background
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James Divine: I'm curious about Tiny Owl, so right, like how come it's not like great big owl knits?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I love that question cuz no one's ever actually asked why It's tiny and there is a reason.
Yeah. And so it was 2003 and I was working at a yarn store myself. At Where were you working? Where was your yarn store?
Katie Rempe: Mine was in Florida. A Good Yarn. Still there.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: In Florida? Mm-hmm. Okay. I was in Nashville, Tennessee at Angel Hair Yarn Company, which isn't there anymore. Do we need a memorial?
James Divine: Yeah. Do we need a memorial for all the yarn stores that once were Oh girl. In memory. I'm just kidding.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Keep going, keep going. No, I mean we were one of those million dollar stores.
I mean, I was seeing 75 women a day. I was working there during the poncho craze with Martha Stewart coming out with her poncho on and, and everyone was like, how do we do it?
And I'd never written patterns before I've gone off topic, but I'll get backish. Um, and there was just like this need to get like poncho patterns and I'm like grabbing and I didn't even barely know how to knit like they hired me cause I was, cuz I could crochet and because I don't know why else but cuz I personable bra Brad.
Um, no, cause you're awesome. How you too. Um, so yeah, so I just picked yarn off. I'm like, okay, we just need to get it going in a circle and we need some increase increases, you know, and I'm doing like, make ones and, you know, it's a terrible pattern. And um, you know, the people around were like, you have to write the pattern for that.
And I'm like, I will never sit down at a desk with a pencil or how you say? And write down what I did. Like, oh, that makes me feel insane. Like, I will never do that. This would just harsh my jam. Cause I just really like to kind of be rogue and I'm kind of moving with the thing and I'm just learning.
And finally they really like nailed my fins to the floor. And were like, okay, you need to write the gauge down. I was like, no, none. None of my patterns are ever gonna have a gauge.
I don't like any of that. What are you doing? And like the thing about that is, is it's now my absolute superpower. Like I can sit and I wanna get so deep into the details of these things. And once I finally embraced that thing that I hate like my most resisted thing, sitting down and writing down what I had done and, and, and accountability and, and sitting quietly and getting in my space and, and slowing the manic down.
And, and it's actually like something I'm so flipping good at, like, I'm, it, it really is my magic superpower. But I was thinking about that when I saw the questions and I thought, you know, the things that we resist the most, that we're just, I cannot do that. It's because there's something massive to uncover.
So that was my start.
James Divine: What would you say to people when they have the persistence to move through resistance. What was available to you when you moved through that resistance?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Think should be surprise? I think that the universe is, there's something called the Mayan wall. I don't know if you've heard of it.
Mayan Wall
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Stephanie Dosen Hart: You get a little bit of beginner's luck. Mm-hmm. And then it's also in the Alchemist too. And then you hit this wind and it's like, do you really want this?
And this is giving me goosebumps cuz I've been trying to start my new thing for like five years and I'm absolutely in a swamp, like a larva dragonfly right now. But it's that, yes, that's it. It's that Mayan wind that says, do you really want this? And as soon as you punch through that wall, and that takes like a tiny step, I think just a few little baby steps.
The universe is there to provide a boat, to provide the right, you know, navigation tools. And all of a sudden it just, it, it's there to all propel you into unimaginable realities just from your own bravery. So I'm really giving myself a lesson right now cuz I'm, wow, I'm so stuck. And that helps me know, like just punching through that little veil and then the universe is like, all right, game on and then forget about it.
And then it just all goes from there.
James Divine: I think you're speaking to so many people, you're speaking to me with my resistance and writing my book. Yeah. I think you're speaking to, to a lot of people definitely that are listening. Who's not in resistance about something, right?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Mm-hmm. Powerful. And then having it show up to powerful to be your greatest gift and your, and your greatest.
Like really superpower. And I saw your questions yesterday and I was thinking about that and that came up for me. I went, you know, really the blockage comes first and then just the gift comes after.
James Divine: Breakdown proceeds breakthrough.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: A hundred percent.
Katie Rempe: Oh yeah. Everyone's gotta have that tower moment before you can move on to better things, right?
James Divine: Yeah. Yeah. You have to disassemble before you can build.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Like the butterfly and the cocoon is just
James Divine: like has to soup. Goo breakdown into goo.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: But also there's divine timing as well.
So tiny. I'll get back to that today. Okay. Yeah, tiny.
So around 2003 when I was in the yarn store and like writing all these patterns and making all this stuff.
And that's when blogging, like knitting, blogging started. So I got myself a knitting blog and I had my bookshelf in front of me and I had, you know, it was Harry Potter Times and I had, um, you know, big stuffed white owl. I'm sure it's related to Hedwig. It might not, I can't actually remember. I just know I had this big feathery owl and his name was Dr. Who don't laugh.
But anyway, I saw it and then I also read this story about Merlin, like flipped a coin in the air and it turned into a tiny owl. And I was just like so obsessed with that. It was like a line like I think I googled maybe Owl or something. And I think it came up like Merlin flipped the coin in the air and it turned, and I think it even said quarter and where Merlin would've gotten a quarter.
God only knows, but it's very transformative these days. Um, but anyway, I saw the Tiny Owl and I went, oh, tiny Owl. And then I was kind of like tiny white owl for a while on my blog. And then that's just, it just went to tiny owl and you throw knits at the end. And those were the days like where there wasn't Ravelry there were, um, blog rings.
Do you guys remember blog rings? Oh yeah. So you would like apply. Okay. So you have blog to connect all a guild. The knit. Yes. So you would apply and then they would say, yes, you're apart. And then they would send you the HTML code and somehow we were all knew how to geniusly do that for like no reason.
Even me as a Gen Xer was like, I can get in there. And um, yeah. Then I was part of the Knitty Kitty blog ring. And then you would click next, and then you'd go to the next knitting blog. And it was this tiny little pre ravelry community. 2003, at least probably before that, but 3, 4, 5.
Birth of Ravelry
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Stephanie Dosen Hart: And then when did ravelry happen?
Like 2006. Five, six? I think so. Six-ish.
Katie Rempe: And then that's a whole game changer too. My gosh.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Yeah. Should we talk about that?
Katie Rempe: Yeah, let's talk about Ravelry because it's a different beast now. And I say beast because there's millions of people on this knitting and crochet website. It still blows my mind.
So Ravelry
James Divine: only of
Stephanie Dosen Hart: them would buy my patterns. Yeah.
James Divine: So rivalry is a social network for makers, right? Yes, yes. Knitters, crocheters
Stephanie Dosen Hart: knit and knitter for really like fiber artists, knitting and crochet community. Yeah. And I was in Nashville cuz I was a singer songwriter and I was trying to get signed and I had a producer out there and so I moved out there to kind of play my guitar and um, was doing all that kind of thing.
And I just got this random job at the knitting shop and I'm like, this is not my passion. Like at night I was playing at the Bluebird and doing things and then during the day I was, you know, hawking yarn at people. Really just throwing it at them. Here's a pattern, make this, do this, do this.
And then I got signed and so I moved to London and I was signed with, um, valley Union, and that was, um, Simon from Cocteau Twins. Do you remember Cocteau Twins?
James Divine: Yes. I love the twins.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: So he and I were in a relationship. I actually moved there with him and we had a band together actually. Wow. Called Snowbird and the guys from Radiohead played on it. I'm not even kidding. So that was like the, one of the fun things. So I was there doing music.
And then I was working with these bands like Massive Attack and Chemical Brothers, and traveling and touring.
And I. My knitting friends. And they would be like, what are you knitting? And I'm like, sending pictures on like old, I don't even know what we had back then. Maybe I was emailing pictures or something. Mm-hmm. And then they're like, join Ravelry and you can put your stuff up so we can see it.
So it was really a way to connect with the people that I miss, that tribe of goddess women that held me through my big transformation. And, and I didn't know I would miss them so much. I didn't know I would miss knitting and, you know, the music world was really overwhelming for me.
And so I always had a little knitting project and kind of made a studio and started doing that and then put my first pattern up, and made it free. They were like, introducing, now you can put a pattern on Ravelry. I'm like, okay. Mm-hmm. Word document, you know? And the way that my first pattern looked, the way they look now, like it has been, oh, we talked about that in the past.
Oh my gosh.
Katie Rempe: Yeah. Standards have changed, that's for sure.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Everything. So that's how that started. And then Ravelry became more and more exciting and inviting and I made a group and I started hanging out there and just, just giving out the, you know, patterns and having fun and bringing people together and doing what I always wanna do, which is just, You know, people are so, they wanna do something creative.
They wanna admit they wanna, but they don't know what they wanna do. And I'm the same, like , if I walk into a yarn store and someone's like, here's some stuff, it's very soft and pretty, here's what you're gonna do, here's your nail. Sit down quietly and just don't think, just do this thing. Yes.
Like, even though I have all these creative urges, like thank you. Just so I love doing that for people who like walk in the yard store and they're like, uh, and I'm like, I totally see you right now. Come with me. Feel this alpaca. We're gonna make a scarf. It's gonna be okay.
James Divine: Oh, totally. I could see that my passion.
That's awesome.
Magical Background
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James Divine: From our conversation so far, you're so magical. Was that always part of your life? Is it how you were raised?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Right. Okay. So I was like, the definition of magic for me is, is probably a little, like, I just, I, I think it's my perception of the fact that I showed up in a body and then we have this life force energy coming through physical reality, and it's creating, and it's moving and it's shifting and changing.
We have consciousness, we get the air from the tree. Like, I'm sorry, this place is a effing trip. Are you kidding? I'm hungry. Oh, reach up and grab an apple. Okay. You know, it's insanity. So to me, my perception of this entire place is like a toddler where I'm like all the time, I cannot fathom.
Can you fathom the gems that come out of the ground? Can you fathom love? Can you fathom childbirth? Can you fathom all of it? So to me, that's all magic and that's where you get in the trouble of like, what is magic? And it's science, it's magic.
Science is just magic we've all sort of agreed on for now. The deeper that we can see with our eyes is when we incorporate that into known reality, because we have to see it with these little fuckers that can only see 1% of reality anyway, who are literally missing an entire radio dial of experience.
So my obsession with the unseen world, and I call it prescience, so I like to call it scance because, and that doesn't make any sense at all because I don't know where I got that. But you know, it's not science yet, but it is the unseen realms that can't be observed yet. And, and maybe manipulating that, but also just, just energizing that, working with that. Channeling what's going on here on planet Earth and seeing how you can use and work with and, and be taught by and, and be in this flow with these liminal unseen realms.
So magic from day one. I just define everything as magic cuz to me, even the word magic, it's just excitement. It's excitement, it's visceral, it's, it's intangible and it's some sort of crafting but it's also some sort of wonder.
I could talk about magic and what I think about the idea of magic for way too long.
James Divine: And has that, that always been your perception?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I, I think so, yes. Cuz I was talking with the, the little people and when I define magic, it really is sort of what is yet known, but what is known.
So have I been doing that and talking to the other realms and things like that and, and also working with them and in communion and, and, and receiving help and guidance from that? From the beginning. I can't remember a time when I wasn't doing that. And then, you know, you get into all the other kind of fun little things that you can do, which for me are symbolic and aesthetic and fun.
And I love the toys and I love the tricks and the to, and I love all the magical looking things, you know, and I just wanted to, I'm here to experience this physical reality and, um, so yeah, all of it.
So if you wanna talk about like, tarot, like getting into like tarot cards or palm readers or prom reading or all that kind of stuff.
And maybe that was, yeah, early nineties, I guess.
So yeah, a long time and so fun. And I'm up for all of it.
Katie Rempe: Even your designs have many magical elements within them. I mean, other than like, you know, wizarding influences because of the popular culture and all of that, but like, you literally have like a felted set of runes.
I do. Yeah. For people to make How were patterns like that accepted by people? Did you ever have like issues or were they all always pretty excited? Or did nobody ever even care?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I think because we're in a polarity experiment, there's always gonna be people that have issues with things and, but of course, um, I, I really didn't encounter that. Doing magic stuff. I mean, I got some stuff like, are you, are you a witch?
And if you're a witch, I'll never buy your patterns again. And I'm like, you know, and I'm like, what do you want me to be? Because whatever it helps for you to think I am, then be, then I'll be that. And that's okay too.
I love that we're here experiencing polarity so that we can see what we don't like about the division within ourself, and then come to peace within the division in ourself and know that we're all of these opinions in one and then release it up into oneness.
In a oneness that is fractal. And that's okay.
James Divine: Well, should we take a break and then talk about our other fun topics? What do you think? Yes, yes, let's do it.
Katie's Workshop
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James Divine: Katie. I got this email about a knit with color magic workshop.
Katie Rempe: That's right. I now offer a brand new workshop on my website. 100% self-paced. All about learning how to knit using color magic, cuz you already knit using colors, but why not be a little bit more aware of how they make you react, how you could use them to help other people express different emotions and feelings.
And more importantly, the ability to be more aware of how colors affect you and how you can use them to help make your knitting projects even more impactful.
James Divine: Even me colorblind Jim, and I'm in there in the comments.
Katie Rempe: That's right. Jim has taken the course and Jim has helped me actually with feedback in the bonus colorblindness section, so why don't you go ahead and learn more by visiting light from lantern.com, and if you have any questions, you can always just drop me an email at hello light from lantern.com. Hope to see you there.
Book a Reading with Jim!
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Katie Rempe: Hey, Jim, I feel like you've been doing a lot of readings lately.
James Divine: This is the time of year when people get their palm read. Especially this autumn time seems like it's that time of year when, ah, time for my annual palm reading time for me to understand what's going on with me.
Divination really picks up so kids are back in school, everyone wants their palm read. So time to book a reading.
Katie Rempe: End the second half of the year strong with reading from Jim. Where do they go to find more information?
James Divine: You know, it's funny. You would go to my website, oh, the Divine Hand, I know, amazing the divine hand.com, and right there on the front page is book a reading.
So I hope you, take this opportunity and check it out for yourself.
Reflecting on Color
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Katie Rempe: So in the second half, We do color and color magic.
So when I was scrolling through your pattern, Stephanie, I noticed a lot of them are more of like a neutral color palette, and I was curious if that was by design or if it just happened that way.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I'm in trouble. Um, you know, um, I've given this a bit of thought since we brought this up and that's where I got in the conversation with my mom about control and control freaks.
So I've noticed with myself that when I'm in a particularly rocky time in my life and I have no control over what's going on, I tend to take my hues way down.
And this is something I really just thought of yesterday and kind of started thinking about, um, is. The lack of color really a safe is that really safety. And then I go through my times where I start coming out. I'm like, I've gone from a cocoon. I'm starting to get those wings. There may be bright blue, maybe there's a splash of pink.
And I go insane. I'm wearing bells. I've got hot pink head to toe. I want, you know, brightly colored everything all over the place when I'm feeling really safe and I'm feeling really loved and I'm feeling really in control of my life, not in control of others. Control freaks do not mean controlling others.
You controlling your own environment, right? And so. I, I began to sort of look at it like that and look at the times where I've been in fear, just in my life in general. I find more calming, neutral colors to be soothing for me. And then when I'm getting up and I'm getting out and I'm just kind of going to that place, like it is an explosion of color.
So I wonder if they're connected. I think that would be interesting to look at our own lives and see, for me it is. And for, so like a lot of people when they're knitting, they want all these different color bags and they want everything to be like a little bit different and all totally crazy. These are my knitting bags.
Oh, it is a, they're all vanilla. Yeah, they're a beige wonderland. Um, but what's inside isn't always, but this keeps me calm. It's not gonna get into my brain too much, but then like, look at what I'm wearing.
So, I see. You know, there's that sort of,
Katie Rempe: I don't think you're a control freak.
I think you're just really organized.
James Divine: Well, I, there's
Stephanie Dosen Hart: something, I'm very organized
James Divine: when I, when I look at your background and even that room behind you, it is so meditative. It is really lovely. Like when I think about walking in or sitting with you and having, like right now, it's just, gosh, there is a sense of being able to have a foundation from which to express oneself.
And one of the reasons to have a really gorgeous neutral palette behind you is so that you can wear super colorful bracelets so that you can wear hot pink bells, and that you can contrast against that. And I wonder if there is more flexibility by having a solid foundation so that you can do that from that place.
I love that looking at your background, there's something really beautiful about being able to come back and say, I don't need to live in cacophony. I can come back and be the cacophony or be silent.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I think that means studios are typically white, right? I mean, in the old days you'd have a studio, you just paint the whole terra thing wall. You don't want furniture in there except that like sexy red couch and you know, everything's white so that you can do the expression and the color.
So I think that's definitely a, a piece of it is having like a blank canvas so that I can think and, and create the color within.
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Polarity Experiment
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James Divine: So, Stephanie, you said something earlier that was kind of like a little comment and I made note of it and I'm gonna circle back. You said we are living in a society that is an experiment. How did you say it?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: And deeper than in a society on earth, we we're having an experiment, which is an experiment with polarity.
James Divine: I'm gonna write that down. An experiment with polarity. Mm-hmm. Tell me a little bit more about that.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: All right. It's gonna go out there a little bit, but come with me.
I think that mass consciousness, which includes every brain on earth, even the ants, the beatles, the birds, the everybody, all consciousness, all conscious thought, all embodied thought form is part of the same thing. So what does that mean?
There's an idea that there's a consciousness who saw a shadow within itself where it thought, well, I like red, but I also like blue. And you notice I changed environments. I went from my knitting studio up to my magic library, which is just colorful, shredded with insane color. And so this, this reality, this consciousness went well, how can I like red if I like blue, that's not right.
How can I play with this idea a little bit more? Let me create a landscape where I can embody and really become these different polarities and see how I can iron out how I feel about being different within myself, from myself.
I wanna do this certain thing. Well, I wanna do this certain thing. Well, those seem to be really at odds, but are they? What if it's all just like one line that's a circle and we can rotate and move around and we can come over here and be like, I'm, I'm gonna be over here right now.
Yeah. And that's ok. I'm not gonna do anything with color right now and I'm gonna do everything with color. You know, just as simple as that.
And then just noting where our preference is, which is the, the engine behind how we move along that circle and experience these different realities for ourself when the possibilities are absolutely endless.
Granted, you get into a body depending on, I don't know what that I don't completely understand, but I do know that there's choice, and I do know that you are always gonna butt up against something that doesn't look like what you are thinking.
Yeah. And then to go like, well, actually, if I really think about that, I can find a place in myself where I think that too. And that's okay. It really is. This whole place is about be becoming okay with your own, you know, what do they call that? Like cognitive dissonance, right? Yes. In your, in your own, like, your own like, well, I'm, I'm two things or more.
Yes. I'm a hundred thousand things. You know, ISIS has a hundred, what, 110,000 names? She have 10,000 names. There's all these different names to describe and all these different ways to, to experience this place. And we want to have it in a box and we wanna put a label on it, and we wanna put it on a shelf permanently and be like, no, I'm safe.
You know? Mm-hmm. Knocking, I'm. With all of this polarity, right? And all of this dichotomy and all this duality.
If you look at like, there's Coke, there's Pepsi, there's Christina Aguilera, there's Britney Spears, there's Michael Jackson, there's Prince. Mine, eighties references. But you know, there's left, there's right, there's always two.
Can we see in our reality that we're looking at, we've always been looking at too of something and can we see that those things are the same thing?
And then there's so many other options. And once you get that, then you're ready for the next evolution of consciousness. And we're ready to go into like omni reality.
James Divine: I love how you talk about the line where it's, you're either on one side of the line like I have here.
Yeah. Or you're on the other. And then scale. Eventually you realize that if I'm on one side or the other, You can actually realize it's a circle. Circle, yeah. And that you can circle around to the backside and it's only when we look at it from the side that we think that it's polarity. So it's an experiment to change your perspective to realize.
It's this grand mandala of Yeah. You know, polarity is actually a circle, but Yeah. You know, when we look at it from the side, it's not, so I think that that's, and then look
Stephanie Dosen Hart: at that beauty within the kaleidoscope of that mandala that is like so many different nuances of preference and mm-hmm. And being able to move along that and go like, I know that now I'm using, harnessing these forces to create a reality and how can I get outta the edge and get into the freaking juicy center of that?
Yeah. And go like, wow. Now the world is very, very exciting and very beautiful. Instead of this like little plain, you know, toppy kind of edge that we are on, where it's just very, it's frustrating. Mm. Like we're not seeing a gonna agree and that's ok. Move to the middle and see kaleidoscope and like, damn, without red colors green pink,
James Divine: you.
Actually where the power is in the center.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: A hundred percent. Yeah. Love, uh, we're doing such important work here, you guys.
Beekeeper's Quilt
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James Divine: So let's talk about color. I'm amazed at this idea of a beekeeper's quilt.
First of all, I think about like, didn't this beekeepers quilt come about because of necessity in some way? Were you on tour? Were you like singing? Was it because you had to do little tiny things or whatever?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Well, I was living in England. And so I was in London and there's an aesthetic there that I was influenced by and inspired by and going to the flea markets and things and seeing all like the patchworks and the different colors.
And I mean, hexagon quilts aren't new, right? I mean, there's hexagon quilts and I saw them in the fleur and the colors and, and, and for me, I've always gone like, I just understand it. If it's beige, I don't understand.
I put these colors together, I always get it wrong. I choose the same hue. I don't know how to pop like a purple in there and make it look good. It was a mystery to me. I wanted to dive into like, how can I go crazy? Like this is me, like, let's go crazy. This is rocking out and being as insane as I can and knitting a color quilt.
But going from these really subdued hues to trying to say, how can I put a yellow next to green and a purple and an orange and a pink, and have those come together and have it be okay and have it be okay with myself. So it really was one of those push throughs in general, but I was very in, I'm always very inspired when someone like can take like six colors and they, and then you're like, I would never have picked a single one of those out.
I hate them all, but together. I am like in my ecstasy looking at them. And I don't get that. I don't, that's not one of my natural skills. Maybe there's a secret hack somewhere. Color wheel, Kaffe Fassett, I certainly would look at his things and go, like, I can't, I only understand it if it's like it's all pink or it's some, so anyway, that was my breaking out and my whole thing was I, I wanted to knit one.
Cause anything I see, I wanna knit. I have to alchemize the yarn into that thing. Like I wanna take what I see and put it in the thing. So I'm like, I gotta knit it.
But as many people know, if you knit, stockinette stitch, it curls up into a little ball and then you have to line the whole thing. And I was like, I am not knitting a nine by nine stockinette stitch thing and, and then it just kind of occurred to me to line each one individually.
And I, I thought no one will ever, ever, ever, ever, a see this, b do this C think I'm sane, but I did a dance around my kitchen when I came up with it for myself, I, I really did do that. Like, you know, like that, like I've never seen, no one's ever done this. Like I, and, and, and you know, trying to explain it to, I was an as Simon at the time and I was like, and he's like, great.
Everyone that I knew at the time, I brought it to like the knitting group in London. I'm like, look, and they're like, You're kidding. Cause I had like six of them. Mm-hmm.
They're like, you gonna make a whole blanket? They're like, how much is time does each one take? And back then it was taking like, I think I got it down to like under 20 minutes, but back then it was like, you know, took 30 minutes, repeat.
And they're like, nobody was buying it. They all laughed. They literally laughed at me. And then I was like, know which is what I need?
James Divine: Your rebel spirit is, I love that you're inspired by being a rebel. This is what we all need.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Yeah. When someone tells me like, that's dumb, and, but there's a lot of times where I can be swayed by that and be like, you're right. It is dumb. But this was something where I'm like, no, you don't even get, like, I will, like, you're never gonna do that. I'm like, destroy all of, you'll take five years and Ill pull off piece of hair outta my head, but I'll do it.
And so I did it and then, and it was growing and growing and then of course people come around, they're, mm-hmm. Four. Scrap sock yard and they're like, you know, and mm-hmm hmm. And the whole time I'm going like, suddenly you're
James Divine: interested, aren't you? Oh yeah, it's looking cool, huh?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: And back in those days, mini schemes weren't around.
Mini schemes came about sort of after I did that. And then someone else did, we, a couple of us I think came up with piece-y projects at the same time, or people were taking stuff and whining it into mini skeins in my group and sharing it with others. Some people were saying like, mini skeins for the beekeeper's quilts or thing, and I'm not taking full credit for mini skeins, but it was in the vein of like, that time that started happening certainly didn't hurt.
Yep. Breaking apart their yarns so that they, cuz they're like, how did you do that? And I'm like, I bought seven thousands of Koigu and, you know what I mean? Like mm-hmm. I did it, I didn't worry about the money, I just was like doing it and I would pull all these neutrals out and I'm like, no, put it back.
Get something crazy. And I made myself like pull out crazy colors. And then, um, And it was really, um, totally out of my element to do something that colorful and bright and, and I think it's ok. I've seen peoples that are great. The colors that they do and the way that they do it.
People have blown me away. I only was able to kind of break out of my comfort zone and put some colors together that I didn't know if they went together. And it was fine enough. But, um, people have taken that with their genius ability to mix color and really Oh, yeah. Amazed me.
James Divine: Looking at the pictures, all you need to do is Google beekeeper's quilt and then look at images and it's so cool.
It's just, and if you're on
Katie Rempe: Ravelry, there's like 10,000 million finished projects for you to look at and Absolutely. I
Stephanie Dosen Hart: inspiring cause I said all I was gonna make it free. Cause no one was interested around me. Really. People thought I was crazy. And it took me, it took year to make it. Um, mine's not that big.
And then that's all I was doing. Cause I did like the idea of, oh, it's a portable thing and it's squishy. And then I put, and then I put it down and I'm like, actually I can't think right now. I just need to have, do something with my hands. It's a lot of like anxiety, kinda, you know, I'm just gonna do something small enough to think vibe with it, which is what I think kept me going and the excitement about, you know, I was excited to have it really.
So I was like, I'm just gonna make it free. No one's ever gonna do this. No one's ever gonna even look at this. And I put it out. And I mean, that I, I had had that, that hat with the antlers sort of go semial at one PO point.
You know, a year, a couple years prior to that.
This thing just hit and all of a sudden the sales were coming in and it was just like, dang, dang ding. And I'm going like, oh my God, they're buying it. And then there was a mistake in it. I thought I was being clever. Like, this is one of my most embarrassing moments.
After I found this out, I like, I think I drank like six beers. I made like a, like a, I'm gonna like end it all, like vlog. I mean, I went nuts over not being perfect, but I end of the sock.
I wanted something tidier than in the two together. Mm. So I tried to invent something, so I was like, what you're gonna do is you're gonna, and I made it up. It's like my invention, it's like a k k toggle tube, B3 four or whatever I called it. And it was like, you slide things over, then you go in then, you know, and I made this super complicated thing that made a really tight K2 tog, and it was out the pattern's going nuts.
And all of a sudden there's like a thread that pops up, which is like, mm-hmm. Isn't this really just like a K2 tog through the back or whatever. I don't remember what it was, but it was like, I had made up this big stitch thing ever and it was already a thing I need super complicated. And I'd sold how many patterns with this dumb thing in there.
And I literally, I, I like, went straight to ground zero, you would think that something really, really, really horrible had happened to me, but, I was so embarrassed. That was a little secret little thing that happened. Then I, and then I'm like, oops, you know, silly me. I guess it's like, I guess it didn't invent some stitches, just a K2 tog through and a back to make a tighter K2 tog, or, I don't even remember what it ended up being.
So then I just changed it to K2 Tog. I'm like, oh, I was trying to be way too clever.
Katie Rempe: So the pattern, you just we're gonna give away ends up being I was the one, right? Yeah, I think so.
Or at least
Stephanie Dosen Hart: one of the ones I, it got me my plane ticket to move back to America and pack, you know, got my stuff packed up and, you know, it costs a lot of money to move overseas and I paid for that and I'm forever grateful.
Katie Rempe: And it's still being sold now. I mean, people are still making it. I still see people commenting about it all the time.
Yeah, it's, it is timeless. So you nailed it.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Congratulations. That's nice picture. I dunno what that, that, what that was. Thank you. I won't even take credit for it. It was like something that came, like, everything came through.
Is Color Magical?
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James Divine: When we think about the magic of color, do you think that color is magical?
Do you think about that intentionally when you're knitting?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I've been thinking about color therapy cuz I do sound therapy. Mm-hmm. And so I know that the vibration I've seen now physically with my little eyes, I can't see very much, what sound does to matter. This is in the scance realm that we don't quite understand what color is doing for us.
With us. To us, I don't think we quite get it yet. It can cause you, we know, oh, that color makes me feel calmer. I really like this color. I'm having a positive preferential response to this color. Or, I don't like that color doing something. It's getting in there, it's doing something. And I've seen these mats where they're like, lay on a red light and you know, normally ran, lay on a red light.
Oh, I'm sure that's gonna work. But like, ok, let's, let's go into it. What about it? What does it do? What does it do to the unseen particles? I mean, we know we've gotten down to an atom we never thought there was even that.
And I've had downloads from some of the guides and things that I work with where they're showing me, um, there's particles that haven't been seen yet that are actually very deeply involved with, um, with attraction, the law of attraction. That there's going to be a time when we can see that and we're gonna understand the mechanics of how our broadcast system finds alignments and we haven't seen it yet. This is where I call scions. This is the download. This is working with the unseen, but I don't count it out. I definitely think we can take it for granted, cuz we're like, well, that's red, that's blue.
And of course we can't because of color, perception, and then how they make us feel individually and what it's doing. Yeah. What's the frequency? There's a frequency. Everything is light. Mm-hmm. And sound. Right. And it's all frequency. So if that's aligning with the body that's made of energy, and we know that that is science.
If it's aligning with this, this, this, I guess, quantum expression of cells that's come into form, I mean, you know. Mm. It wouldn't hurt to really play around with that and, and to maybe trust the unknown in that. And it's always about trusting the unknown with how these things are making you feel and trusting your gut around, I wanna knit with that color right now.
I know why. Hey, maybe there's a really big reason that you don't understand what that's doing to your body. Maybe it's healing a certain frequency that you need that your ocular receptors,
is that a word? Need to see that? I think we have to trust that.
Katie Rempe: We all go through different times where we're wearing different colors. Right. So it makes as much sense that you would be knitting with them.
I remember when I worked in the yarn store, All the time. Folks would come in and say like, oh, does this color look good on me? What do you think? And I would just push it up against their shirt and be like, yeah, it looks good. You're literally wearing it right now.
So you like it, you like this color,
Stephanie Dosen Hart: it's your medicine, it's your current medicine. You're taking this medicine at home. You're wondering why everything's for me. Everything will start suddenly, like turning into a certain hue and, and it's because something instinctively, you know, we prefer it, which means possibly means we need it.
Yeah.
James Divine: It's fascinating to me how much I love the color purple, even though it's a color that's very hard for me to see. And being colorblind, the color purple tends to be elusive. It can look very much like navy blue. And often I have to ask if something is purple and yet it's a color that I very much favor and there's just something about its vibration, even though it's hard for me to perceive, I somehow can feel it.
I suppose that I could let go of asking and just go with the colors that I enjoy regardless of what they are. And probably I'm just gonna start doing that more.
It's also interesting how I can shift the colors and Katie has started to do that. So I introduced Katie to this idea. I see pink, like bubblegum pink is also, especially if it's a lighter bubblegum, pink can look the same color as gray.
So because of that, I've decided that sidewalks are the color of pink. And the sky light blue can be the same color as lilac. And so I've made the sky lilac and the wow sidewalks pink.
Katie Rempe: You know, like the yarn color trick where you take a picture of the colors and then put it in black and white, see how much they really contrast? Very similar. So you can just kind of flip your brain into tricking it a little bit.
Vibration of Color
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Stephanie Dosen Hart: That's amazing. I love that. Mm-hmm. It made me think of like, well there's that one, like controlling your reality and then, and painting it in a certain way that you, that you're experiencing. And that also made me think of like, what if there's so much more to color?
And I think that's what we're talking about then what your eyes can perceive . And could there be an experiment with someone who doesn't have sight? Feel something different from a color. You know, I'd love to see someone experiment. Like, do you feel that, can you feel the difference between what this frequency of expression how it's working with the light. Can you see that? Can you see that in a different way? And what is the vibration? Yeah. Can you go like, put their hand on it? You know? Like, I can, I can feel that color, can colors be felt?
I
Katie Rempe: believe you can, I've been like, we're going with it. Yeah. I've been into, um, there's, there's a couple of people out there and I know there's like more people doing it. It's learn how to see blindfolded. So it's reteaching yourself to not use your ocular eyes to take in information to feed your brain, but instead to close your eyes, use blindfold and use your consciousness to see it and let that relay back in.
But you know, that's like
Stephanie Dosen Hart: people are seeing with their fingers diligence. Yes. They're they're, they're going, they're pointing it, they're they're putting their eyes down into their finger and things like that. Yeah. And I look at, like, I always think about remote the realms remote.
Yes. Mm-hmm. Same thing. Yes. And I know there, I read something by Mak, I don't know who it was, but he was working with someone who, who she was working with massage. She was blind and she was telling them what things were happening with the satellite or something. Can you tell us when she's like, oh yeah, this is going on with the satellite.
Like she can just see that. Cause she didn't need her eyes. Yeah. Um, but I love my little analogy that I came up with years ago that I loved to think about, which is that like, here's your radio dial, you know, sitting in your old school car, whatever it is. And if you think about an old school dial and you're, you're on this one and you're listening to like, you know, guns N Roses, I'm showing my age.
And then you move over and it's like the whatever, like the classical station and pop hits or whatever, and they're right next to each other. But there's something, and they're invisible. You can't see them. And if you don't have that receptor turned on, how do you know that you're being bombarded with all of this frequency that's undetectable?
Your ears can't even hear it. And yet, if you have an instrument that can pick up this, these waves of information and people talking, people laughing, people in different countries, having conversa, I mean, nevermind the internet, but in old school terms, it is simply, you know, tuning your mechanism for me to become a radio dial, to go like, I'm in this frequency.
Now. What happens if I go to my neighbor? What happens if I move this up a little? What happens if I change my instrument to perceive these things in a different way? And to hear something I didn't know was there.
To hear color, to smell color, like you're saying. Yeah. What if that's just a tweak of this dial, but you need to become an instrument that's willing and able and perceives the possibility of how can I shift myself to experience these other realities?
Could I shift myself to lit to release the of Pink Road? Until you go there, you know, how do you know? I know it's so bad.
James Divine: And there are some, there are actually some people that do have an ability. The opposite of colorblindness. They have the ability to see into the ultraviolet and they can see an extra color.
And so insects can see that.
And it's like the other side of like, they can see into light that could be visible. If we were to perceive it. So this is visible, it's just not visible with our eyes.
It is visible light. Mm-hmm. If we make instruments that can see it, and this is where I think about when you say future science, one day there may be a way to measure psychic phenomenon. Of course. We just don't have an instrument yet. Of course. You know, I think it's such a cool thing that you say
Stephanie Dosen Hart: that that's, I called science, but I like that you said science.
What? What is future science? Which future science is science. Because science is really just, we, it's that slow rolling ball that has to get, everybody has to get on board. It has to go slow enough for the slowest member to get on board. And even that changes because then it continues rolling and then things fall off the end.
Yeah. As we absorb more and more information. Yeah. And then people have such a, you know, dichotomous, I guess relationship with what, what is magic? Well, what is magic? It's just, it's still law. It's just unknown law. It's unseen yet
James Divine: law yet.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Yes, exactly. And yet unseen yet. So science, I like that. Future science.
I know that I'm in that business. Yeah.
Why Combine Magic & Making?
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James Divine: So when people are knitting, making, being creative what's a benefit of including magic or, metaphysical intention? Mindfulness and mindfulness Into their knitting. They're crocheting, they're making their creative process.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I think it's all about following the juiciness.
And I think if you get the idea to do it, and you do the things where you do a prayer, you do a wish, you know you've got your wish, and I've got my juniper wishing scarf. So put a wish in every stitch and, and do those things. And if that sounds juicy to you, do it. If it doesn't, don't, don't ever force yourself.
Never force.
I say break outta your comfort zone, but never force yourself to do something that isn't juicy. So I think, does that sound fun for you? How can that be fun? You know, I had this idea, I did the moon phase scarf and I did it in the round and I did all the moon phases going all the way up.
And it's this long saying, I dunno who would wear it, but anyway, God love it. But I had this idea I was, was gonna knit the phase during the phase and I was gonna experience each one and da da da and best intentions, you know, do I still think it's fun? The idea of it? Yeah. Do I wish I would've done it?
Yeah. Did I do it? No. But do I feel like I still did it and there was something cool? Yeah. Like, you know, my perception is 99% of the battle. So do still feel like I had that? Yeah, there was something fun and juicy about the idea of that. And sometimes that's enough.
Katie Rempe: I agree. Try it, try it. If it finds interest to you, don't try it if you're not done.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: And don't be hard on yourself.
Katie Rempe: Yeah. As we know. Even if you say you're not gonna do a thing, uh, life may find a way of coming back and hitting you with that later.
So.
James Divine: Never going to write patterns, she said. And look what happened. Coming back to what we were talking about before, is the beauty of the breakthrough.
Like there is something about this isn't fun after five minutes. Yeah. But what about 10 minutes or 15 minutes? That's true. And what about once we kind of do a little bit of that breakthrough and could this be something that is okay now I'm starting to get it. Like once I start doing something and I get over that learning curve and I start to really have like maybe there's a joy in there in the long run, or once this piece is completed and I see the, that's a big one.
Overwhelming joy in the person it's intended for. Yeah. Or I'm wearing the moon scarf at the full moon or at the dark moon. I'm in the space of doing a, an offering to Diana at the full moon wearing my moon scarf that I knitted in for that purpose. I'm so gratified.
That's my right. I'm so gratified
Stephanie Dosen Hart: that say, say with Diana, Diana's one of my mommy's,
James Divine: yeah. I'm so gratified that I did this and this is my offering. I offered every moment of that, arduous process that I sort of love, hated in making it. Now that's part of my offering to that great goddess, right?
Mm-hmm. So I think about those things as well, and I, I'm so appreciative of the reality that like, Yeah. Some of it is juiciness and some of it is joy, and some of it is also like, fuck me, kind of a slog. Yeah. Yeah. And that all of it. Embrace all of it. And we're in this experiment with polarity and that it comes, it's all there.
It's all there. Yep. Center in that. Oh my gosh. I'm so inspired by our conversation today. Same. Yes.
Tarot Pull For Fall
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James Divine: Let's pull a card, shall we? Mm.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Yeah.
Katie Rempe: We thought maybe we could all pull cards if you wanted to do as well. Jim and I. Because we're doing all this season on color.
We both have an edition of Tarot Disassembled by our friend, Jennifer Steidley who made two different colored boxes and just came out with a new edition of her tarot deck too. Just fyi, everybody will put the links in, everything in the bio.
It's like super, super colorful.
So that's the one we're gonna feature this month,
Stephanie Dosen Hart: or at least that makes me so happy. I have my tarot that I left downstairs when I band my ship down there. Um, is like one of those tarots, that's all, it's all the same color, like it's pink, but it's foil, so it's really, really shiny, but there are no colors in it whatsoever.
And it's the one I've been using the most. It's very slippery.
I just got obsessed with the fact that they're foil cards.
Yeah. They're super shiny shimmery. Oh wow. Metallic. Wow, wow, wow. Amazing. All right, so, so we're going straight to
James Divine: tarot. Today is September 13th, 2023. This is the day we're airing this.
Mm-hmm.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: That's so crazy to think. So, are we making like predictions?
James Divine: It's almost the autumn equinox.
So let's pull a card to give us a little guidance with color. Like what color is there? Katie and I are gonna be looking at color, and then Stephanie is gonna be pulling a card to top it off. So let's go Katie. Okay. Jim, Stephanie. And this is something to think about and ponder as we enter the autumn equinox.
All right. Are you ready, Katie? I'm ready. Okay, go.
Katie Rempe: All right. I have, oh, The five of cups
Black, interestingly. Black background. Yeah.
James Divine: What do we see in that? Five of cups.
Katie Rempe: Everything is spilling, man. Everything is spilling or it's dying this beautiful little cape here.
James Divine: What colors are being spilled?
Katie Rempe: So we have red and green being spilled out onto the blue watery background. Yeah. With a gray bridge. Gray cape. Gray
Stephanie Dosen Hart: castle. Or is it, there we go, pink
Katie Rempe: or is it pink? That's right. Some sort of light color.
James Divine: What's your interpretation of that? For the autumn equinox, what is the message?
Katie Rempe: Uh, I would say don't cry over spilt milk situation. So, ooh. The fall for me always means big change, often emotional change. And so even if things seem like they're falling apart, literally smashing over, it's okay.
Just clean it up, take a breath, and then grab one of these other cups and have a little sip and reflect on things. It's not as bad as it looks. That's
James Divine: it. I love it. I like on that card that you didn't drink the green poison cuz it spilled.
Katie Rempe: I mean, maybe it's a health drink, it could be matcha.
James Divine: Oh, that's true.
It could be, you know, green. Maybe you're over
Stephanie Dosen Hart: caffeinated.
Katie Rempe: There we go. Yeah, I need more greens.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: I love in that card is, I always think fives as, I feel like fives are full physical embodiment in the hand. I think they go along with the hand. So whenever I see five, I see the hand, and I always see when you've extended into each of your fingers and you're fully embodied, there's always that moment of either something has to change, you have to get to the six, the five wants to go to the six.
And so there's a breaking out comfort zone there for me where you know, five's always like, I gotta kinda leave this thing behind. It's because I've expanded into my full body. So what's the sixth sense? How does that next thing open up? So yeah, this is outgrowth, but it's also an abundant outgrowing where it's like, this is F, is that a word?
Yes. It's exploding outta my physical form. So what's next? Yeah. Yeah. I love
Katie Rempe: that. Perfect for fall, right? Reap that bounty.
James Divine: Yep. And the five is in the middle between the one and the ten's. So it's right true. In the Equinox, like in that balance and the background is black. Yeah. She got a black card much, which is really interesting because
what
Stephanie Dosen Hart: also got a black
Katie Rempe: card. Interesting. There's not a lot of actual black cards in this deck. So
Stephanie Dosen Hart: that's What card is that the, my screen must up. It's
James Divine: the five, the Pentacles of Pentacles. Mm. So you got the five of water, the five of cups, and I have the five of Earth or the five of Pentacles, which has five pinnacles.
It has, these are the symbols. The deconstructed card has all the symbols, the snowflakes, the crutch, the bell, which is hanging around the lepers neck. In the classic card you can see the one sock, the church window, the bandages, the snow, the. The little bush. So this in the classic deck is two lepers, limping outside a church, looking for alms, hoping for help.
And you can read it in two ways. One, like a five in this center, one is, They're lost and dejected and rejected from the establishment of the church, because they're lepers. That's one way to read it. On the negative side, on the positive side, they are moving towards help, which is available to them in the warm illuminated church inside, and that's where they're going to, they're on their way to assistance in the church.
And so depending on how you look at this five again, right in the middle of the one to 10, are you moving towards help or away from help? You have that perspective in this liminal space right in the middle between one to 10. You're in that five space. Are you moving towards physical, tangible assistance or are you moving away from that physical, tangible help that's available to you?
What else would you add to this card that's on black with all these colors?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: So five, five we got, and now the pressure's on. I'm about be like, yeah, I'm gonna get with you. I right. Oh shit. I mean, what's your I, this was on top. I'm not even gonna pretend, but I will shuffle again. But that's, yeah, I was sitting on top when I looked down.
I was a five of wands.
James Divine: Read that. It's the five of wands. That's amazing. Amazing.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Maybe that's just, you know, meant he's totally right. Make a joke about how he's gonna look through my deck to find a five. And it was, I looked down, it was right there. Looked down mother effort. I'm not gonna even look. No,
James Divine: that isn't, that's gotta in
Stephanie Dosen Hart: your, that's an three situation.
So I wanna say about 5 55. Are you kidding me? It's an number.
James Divine: It's, you gotta go with it. It
Stephanie Dosen Hart: the ultimate change. It's the ultimate change. And I was gonna cheat,
um, but have this past life sort of memory of being, Well, I'll just dump it out there.
So what, I had a past life memory where I was pregnant. I was trying, I was having a child. I was not in a home. I was in the snow. Very So that car hits home. I remember that feeling and seeing the light and, um, it didn't end well for me.
But what has come forth for me in this reality is knock on one more door. Let's say you've decided to go for the light, right? Knock on that next door cuz you never know when you're gonna, I could see in my omni perspective in that life where I was too ashamed and I was too sick and tired and I was too much in my own self poverty and my own self pain and my own like, well this and who cares anyway about me?
And that self pity that you go through where you were like, I'm not even gonna knock another, I don't care if I bleed out in the snow. And then, okay, well then you will. And I could see from my omni perspective that if there was one more door, there was stew and there was a fire and there was a woman, and she would've let me in.
And I went back and actually did that out in my akasha, you know, just took that door, went to that next door and opened up. So like open one more door, open one more door for your healing open one more door for your miracle. Don't stop when you've been defeated. It's that meme where he's like pounding through.
And the diamonds on the other side. Yes. Like open one more door. One more door. If you quit, then you're gonna quit. You're gonna stay in the snow. Of course you're, and that's okay too. That's some choice too, because then you end up here and that's fine. But um,
James Divine: God love that. The five wants. The five wants the six once again.
So we had that with the five of cups, the five wants the six. And we have this with the five of Pinnacles. The five wants the six open. One more door. The six of Pinnacles is charity. It's the charity being doled out. Yeah. And you're worthy of it.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: And receiving. And then we have the five of this was.
Five, I, it's almost a cheater, but it also was, I did look down and it was sitting right there on exactly on top, so I would've kinda dug for it just as a joke. I wanna pull an animal card just as a, like a final, but, we'll, this, because we'll just go with the triple five and the, um, this to me is always the card of, different elements of the personality fighting against themselves.
And we've been talking about that all day. It's like, I'm, I'm this, no, I'm this, no, I'm corporate. No, I'm mystical. No, I'm scientific. No, I'm rational. Isn't it the same thing? I dunno. Let's beat the hell out of each other. You know, like, let's, what are we gonna, are we gonna wear? Are we gonna wear a dress?
Are we gonna wear pants? Whatever it is, all of these things exist and all of the battle is really raging within one person. They're all, as I remember, well, their boots are a bit different, but they're all the same person and they're all just coming at their own self with different elements of themselves and trying to make this homogenized.
Can't we all just be exactly the same? No. We can't, hello? Are you here? Do you see It's of fun. Yes. And our uniqueness is ok and we don't have to fight with it and just let it, let it go and get in a hug and you know, let's make a group of 15, just 5, 5, 5, you know, in a circle just embracing what is.
James Divine: And what happens after The five is the six?
Which is that Oh yeah. Integration and that beautiful success of, moving past that.
Katie Rempe: Mm, yeah. Yep. A victory. Wow.
James Divine: Let's hold all these fives up. Let's hold the five up just for fun. We'll look at that. That 5, 5, 5. What an incredible wow
experience.
Wow. Wow. Gosh.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Big changes. Big changes. Big changes with the 5, 5, 5. And all changes are for the highest good. So that's always the way to look at it. Change is the highest good, even if it doesn't look, I really wanted to pull a little animal and this morning I did actually pull the owl and then I thought, well, that's funny.
Let's see who a little guide could be for us for this little triple five, even though mine was, mine was real, even though takes me of time. Get. Wow. Okay. It is, it's, it's antelope.
Life is speeding up. It's fast. You may feel like you're being chased, you may be chasing, you may be running at full speed fight or flight. It's, you know, if you're in this fight or flight stage, it's, it is time to regulate your nervous system for sure.
Or
Katie Rempe: Really encompassing all that five energy.
James Divine: Amazing. Amazing. Mm
Katie Rempe: Thank you for doing that. So nice.
James Divine: Stephanie, this has been so amazing. I love getting to know you and thank you for being on our podcast. I am thrilled to have met you and to connect with you. I have been so moved by this, conversation and I think all of our listeners are gonna love this
yes. I can't wait to have you on again.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Thank you guys. Yay so much. This was a blast. I loved it.
James Divine: Yay.
Katie Rempe: So before we let everyone go, where can people find you? I mean, I know you're kind of like transitioning to a new stage, right? But like mm-hmm. If someone was like, I gotta look at this beekeeper's quilt, I gotta cast one on.
Where can people find out more about you and, and what's new coming up?
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Tiny Owl Knits. And tinyowlknits.com. And then Tiny Owl Knits on the, on the Instagrams. And then, um, the new thing that I'm doing, which is more into this sort of divination, messages and sound healing. I play the bowls and so, light language, transmissions for like transferring codes and things like that.
And that is life this magical, so @LifeThisMagical, that's my Instagram and I think I have the website and I just got the email and it's happening. We're just percolating.
Katie Rempe: Ooh, very exciting. We'll make sure to link everything in the show notes for people to make it easy to find.
Thank you so much for coming. This has been such a joy.
Stephanie Dosen Hart: Guys too. So happy knitting. Happy magic. Thank
James Divine: you, Stephanie.
Katie Rempe: All right, everybody, until we meet again next week, Jim. Thanks for everything and I will
James Divine: see you then. All right, Katie. See you then.
Bye everybody.
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